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Just in Case you Have Been Misled about Obama and Jobs Creation, Watch this Video and Read the Accompanied Text

Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:29 AM EST
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By ambivalent

Get the facts: https://my.barackobama.com/jobsgraphad After taking office, President Obama signed the Recovery Act to help get our economy back on track. As a result: -The U.S. has seen 22 consecutive months of private-sector job growth. -The private sector added more than 3.1 million jobs over those 22 months,. -Manufacturing added 334,000 jobs in the last two years, the first time since 1997 that manufacturing employment rose. -The President passed legislation to create jobs and supporting working Americans, including: -A payroll tax cut for all working families, providing the average working family with a $1,000 tax cut in 2011. -Expansion of small business loan programs to help small business access credit and create jobs. -Initiatives to help veterans transition to post-service careers. -Tax incentives for businesses that hire unemployed veterans. The President's decision to provide emergency loans to the auto industry: -Saved more than 1.4 million American jobs. -Prevented personal income losses over two years of more than $96 billion. -Helped make the big three (Chrysler, GM, and Ford) all profitable for the first time in years.

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ambivalent

Stop blaming, and give credit where it is due. We are on the right track.

  • 14 votes
#1 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:28 AM EST
ERich-356044

Agreed!

  • 9 votes
#1.1 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:33 AM EST
bluearcher

Too often repeated...if you do not like Obama Administration policies I will happily explain the reasoning behind such decisions for misinformed, under-educated, low information conservatives.

Too many point to Obama policy as an issue for dislike and disapproval when it is actually closet racism...right Tea Baggers?

  • 7 votes
#1.2 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:45 AM EST
ambivalent

Sorry to say that the minute that word racism is used many conservatives immediately close their ears.

  • 6 votes
#1.3 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:50 AM EST
Mike-2454251

Could it be that every debate due to a difference in "OPINION" always ends up being considered as racist, because one doesn't agree with "YOU"? In the eyes of the Left, any disagreement automatically labels one as racist. Hell Newt said it was time to wean people off of social programs such as Welfare, by trying to get them in the work force, and that was considered racist rather than logical. Here's a good site for actual statistics rather than those supplied by Government.

http://www.shadowstats.com/charts/employment

  • 1 vote
#1.4 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:10 AM EST
ambivalent

It doesn't always end up that way. Many, Liberals and Conservatives, understand the difference between policy disagreements and racist behavior. The word becomes trite when used incorrectly and unfairly, but congressional obstinance to allow natural growth for this country is tedious and leads to so many asking the question, "Why?". It isn't only about expenditures, it is also something else.

  • 5 votes
#1.5 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:19 AM EST
Mike-2454251

Your theory doesn't hold water considering the overwhelming support Herman Cain got before he stepped aside. As much as you wish it were because of race i must say it is not. It is about saving our country from Socialist control, and the environment of corrupt politics, from both parties.

    #1.6 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:36 AM EST
    ambivalent

    Perhaps for you it is not about race.

    • 1 vote
    #1.7 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:40 AM EST
    Ron Christman

    Putting up Cain as proof that the right wing is not racist is just pure bull@!$%#. Cain, in his attempt to be one of the 'good ol' boys at the country club' is just as racist as the rest of the GOP candidates. . . and every last one of them has expressed the dog whistle racist statements that the winger crowd loves.

    • 1 vote
    #1.8 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:40 AM EST
    jwtiii

    Are many of the harsher criticisms leveled at this president undeserved? Yes. Is all of the vile rhetoric directed at him counterproductive? Absolutely! Is there a racial component to some of the criticism and rhetoric? Indeed. Is there a deeper level of tribal discomfort with 21st century immigration and other large-scale changes in the global labor market pursuant to the expiration of the UK lease of Hong Kong (1999) and the decision to vacate that lease ten years early (1989)? You betcha. . . (And especially when Americans are confronted with the prospect of losing ready access to 25% of the world's resources for our privileged 5% of the world population. . . Or needing to work 80-100 hour weeks to eke out an existence in what had previously been "the world's richest economy". . .)

    It's just easier for folks to make up reasons to be pissed at one guy than to figure out what has really happened over the last 25 years. . .

    • 2 votes
    #1.9 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:45 AM EST
    knightofdespair

    I wouldn't say we are on the right track, we are on a better track than if a republican was continuing to push middle class damaging actions but we're still about 30 years off track because of the last 3 republican tools.

    We are in pretty sad shape at the moment, this country won't even exist in 20 years if we don't do something about Jobs, education, infrastructure, healthcare, and housing. The garish ostrich party would prefer to bury their head in the sand and pretend these problems don't exist or are solely the fault of a laid off construction manager or housewife who can't pay her mortgate anymore, but they ignore the fact that both of these people did work and pay these bills for years... The entire structure of our country is rotting from the inside out... We can either admit there is a problem and start working on real fact based solutions or we can choose the cowards way out and bury our heads in the sand and cry about debt and spending and abortions and then offer no real ideas.

    • 2 votes
    #1.10 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:05 AM EST
    Mike-2454251

    In my opinion the race card was exactly why a nobody from nowhere, became POTUS. He was hand picked by the powers that be that are hell bent on changing this country into a Socialist Saul Alinsky doctrine Nation. He had to be a black man for that very reason. They can implement policy, and destroy our Constitution without any resistance from the people due to the fact, that any resistance has to be race driven, because our leader is Black. It's a diversionary tactic to pull this theft of America off right under our noses. The only ones shouting race are the liberal media, and those that blindly follow them. This all is to disguise the real liberal agenda until a point it is to late to turn back. I've been around for over a half a century and have "Never" seen a climate of hatred for race, creed, or political opinion than that of what I see today. That's the question I ask myself, Why now? I don't hate the Left, nor the Christians, nor the blacks. Neither do what I would guess 85% of the population, even though the media tells us all we must hate each other. We're still all Americans so don't be influenced by those that are trying to change that.

      #1.11 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:09 AM EST
      knightofdespair

      In my opinion the race card was exactly why a nobody from nowhere,

      A nobody who has amazing grades, great speaking and reasoning skills and can debate with the best of them... Someone who makes our last president look like a complete retard and has garnered a lot more respect around the world for his carefully thought out and reasoned moves and economist lauded efforts to steer an already failing economy back on safer ground. People say race, because there are very few fact based reasons for the vile and hatred streaming at him from the right.

      • 2 votes
      #1.12 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:17 AM EST
      ambivalent

      Sounds like you are paraphrasing the President's SOTU address from last night. He cannot do it alone, and it won't happen if we as a nation do not exhibit hope, and show confidence in our individual abilities to progress, find new ways, better ways to live and govern. It has already started on the upswing. Taking down the wall between congress and Chief happens by lifting one brick at a time, and I think he presented not only those bricks but the reality of how they can and will be removed so that we can be a unified yet divers nation. I like checks and balances, but not deliberate inertia.

      Hatred abounds, it needs die out.

      • 4 votes
      #1.13 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:19 AM EST
      LassenPark

      In my opinion the race card was exactly why a nobody from nowhere, became POTUS. He was hand picked by the powers that be that are hell bent on changing this country into a Socialist Saul Alinsky doctrine Nation.

      And they claim it's the liberals who're racist. They obviously cannot hear the sound of their own voices.

      • 2 votes
      #1.14 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:34 AM EST
      Mike-2454251

      If you're implying my comment has racist undertones it is now understandable why every word we say is considered to be racist.

        #1.15 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:42 AM EST
        jwtiii

        If you're implying my comment has racist undertones it is now understandable why every word we say is considered to be racist.

        If you had to choose between stupidity or insensitivity, which would it be?

        • 2 votes
        #1.16 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:51 AM EST
        LassenPark

        In my opinion the race card was exactly why a nobody from nowhere, became POTUS.

        Are you going to deny that statement indicates that you think his winning the presidency was some sort of affirmative action process?

        • 4 votes
        #1.17 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:55 AM EST
        Mike-2454251

        No not affirmative action, more of a convenient way to turn every debate or actions and any dissent there of those actions as being racist as the motive for that dissent. It can not be denied that each and every time there is the slightest bit of disagreement, or dissent for anything the POTUS tries to do is always labeled as a racist attack upon him, for the simple and "Convenient" reason he is Black. Personally i could care less what his skin color is. I'm offended by his policies, agendas, and the direction to which he is leading this country in. That doesn't make me racist because of that opinion, nor should it for the millions of others that feel the same way I do.

        • 1 vote
        #1.18 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:17 PM EST
        LassenPark

        So you deny something that's patently obvious. Not all the mincing of words and toe-dancing above does you any good, Mike. It just confirms what we already knew.

        • 1 vote
        #1.19 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:07 PM EST
        Mike-2454251

        Lassen That's not toe dancing, that's fact. I can see I'd be better off discussing this topic with a big ole Ga. pine tree rather than you. Have a nice day.

        • 1 vote
        #1.20 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:46 AM EST
        LassenPark

        I get that a lot from right wingers who've run out of ways of denying what they've just said.

        • 1 vote
        #1.21 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:38 AM EST
        Mike-2454251

        I haven't run out of anything except patience with folks that can't see in front of their face because of their partisan nose. I only offered my opinion and you have done nothing to express yours except try and tell me how well you think you know me. For starters I'm not a Republican but I'll go out on a limb and guarantee you're a Democrat. If you'll notice I used the term "Powers that be", not singling out either party. Your bias automatically caused you to go into the pit bull mode, without any rational thought on the topic, assuming I was referring to the Dems. Please quote where I've denied anything I said while your at it. Could it be "know it all" misinterpreted something I might have said, or are you totally driven by partisan political bias?. Now back to my Pine tree, it has a neutral perspective, and doesn't sass me back.

          #1.22 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:04 PM EST
          LassenPark

          You must have heard that expression: when you're in a hole, stop digging. I'd suggest you take it to heart, Mike. That hole you've created is just getting deeper.

          • 1 vote
          #1.23 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:18 PM EST
          Mike-2454251

          At least I'm still digging one. You seem to have been buried in yours. Try pulling your head out of it. It's amazing what you might finally see. As for me I'll keep digging that hole looking for the truth.

            #1.24 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:25 PM EST
            LassenPark

            You're a funny one, Mike. Your basic argument style is: uhnn uhhh, YOU are.

              #1.25 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:27 PM EST
              ambivalent

              Please stop the personal snarking.

                #1.26 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:27 PM EST
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                TheyreAllCrooks

                Pretty soon the GOP is going to start claiming that it was Dubya Bush who created all those jobs in 2009 and 2010. They haven't figured out the verbage just yet, but trust me, they will!
                They're almost desperate enough to reclaim Bush!

                • 3 votes
                Reply#2 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:33 AM EST
                knightofdespair

                Hell, they could say that on fox news with no proof and probably 30% of america would be stupid enough to believe it without any kind of evidence whatsoever.

                • 1 vote
                #2.1 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:55 AM EST
                Mike-2454251

                30% is better than the 90% that watch MSNBC and believe their bull@!$%#.

                  #2.2 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:54 PM EST
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                  hugh b

                  the facts though relevant, will have no bearing on our opinions...

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#3 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:50 AM EST
                  LassenPark

                  That's not all. In each of the fiscal years President Obama has been responsible for, the deficit has declined, and in this current one is expected to drop by a whopping $400B and go below $1T for the first time in 4 years. Once again, it takes a Democratic president to come in and put our fiscal and economic houses in order. The Republican worship of failure, on the other hand, has never been more fervid.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#4 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:05 AM EST
                  Mike-2454251

                  Lassen are those figures before the 1.3trillion debt limit increase a few months ago, or before the additional 1.3trillion they want this year?

                    #4.1 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:29 AM EST
                    LassenPark

                    I didn't say anything about the debt much less suggest that it's going down. The key to getting control of the debt is getting deficits to drop without crashing the economy and that's what's happening now. I did misstate the facts a bit though. The last time deficits were on a downward trend was when Clinton was president, so President Obama is the first president since 2001 to see deficits fall.

                    • 2 votes
                    #4.2 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:37 AM EST
                    Mike-2454251

                    So in English, if I can't afford my house payment, car payment, utility bills, or put food on the table, and don't have any income coming in to satisfy these debts, all I need to do is borrow more money until I can afford them.? Common sense tells me you can't borrow and spend your way out of debt, but when has common sense ever been a part of Government planning.

                      #4.3 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:57 AM EST
                      LassenPark

                      Well, you can starve to death naked in the cold somewhere if you prefer. Thing about republicant "common sense": it drives this country off the cliff every time it gets a chance.

                      • 2 votes
                      #4.4 - Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:00 PM EST
                      thelopes

                      Common sense tells me you can't borrow and spend your way out of debt,

                      Isn't that exactly what the big 3 car companies did? Isn't that the very idea of a business loan?

                      You use the money you've borrowed to try and make a more profitable future, and then you can pay it off.

                      • 1 vote
                      #4.5 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:54 PM EST
                      Mike-2454251

                      Dream on. By the way Ford didn't follow your business model, and they now lead the pack, in the US, and very possibly worldwide now.

                        #4.6 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:11 PM EST
                        thelopes

                        Dream on.

                        What a great rebuttal there. You've shown how taking loans to then pay off debt hasn't worked. I'm seriously not being sarcastic here (Yes I am).

                        By the way Ford didn't follow your business model, and they now lead the pack, in the US, and very possibly worldwide now.

                        Way to tiptoe around that it worked for the other two - it's totally not obvious.

                        And they supported the bailout model. They asked for money.

                        They even later took out taxpayer-subsidized loans.

                        http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44735499/t/ford-ceo-pressed-explain-anti-bailout-ad/#.TyGgQYHTYyA

                        the No. 2 U.S. automaker did receive a subsidized $5.9 billion loan from the U.S. Energy Department that helped reduce borrowing costs.

                        They are still in debt. They took out a taxpayer loan. Anything to say?

                        • 1 vote
                        #4.7 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:52 PM EST
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                        McSpocky

                        Excellent seed! Clipping to my column and a few other groups! :)

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#5 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:01 PM EST
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