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Most Expect to Give More Than They Receive, Poll Finds

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A majority of Americans say they expect to pay more in federal taxes over their lifetime than they will ever receive in benefits from the government, according to a recent New York Times poll. At the same time, the taxes Americans pay today are not keeping pace with the growing costs of government.

Most Americans realize that the taxes they pay during their working years may not be enough to cover either their Medicare or Social Security benefits. But a majority of those surveyed, 55 percent, also said they would pay more in taxes than they would ever get back from the government in benefits.

In follow-up interviews, some respondents said that was because their tax dollars were also paying for government programs that did not benefit them directly, like foreign aid, the military and assistance for the poor. Some also said government waste contributed to their pessimism.

Eighty-five percent agreed that increasing taxes on the wealthy should play a role in reducing the overall federal deficit, and three in five said it should play a major role. Seventy percent also favored raising taxes on all Americans, although only 32 percent said this should play a major role.

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ambivalent

Death and taxes, the definites in this world. Let's raise them and spend them where they will do the most good, get rid of government waste, and stop paying for legislators who don't give a damn what happens to us now or later. That might be a good beginning.

Here's an interesting interactive on who is getting what and where: us/entitlement-map.

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Reply#1 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:12 AM EST
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Good post; good job, NYT, on that interactive map. The so-called self-sufficient like their government benefits and aid a lot; what they don't like at all is for anybody other than them, or their tribe/race, to get any help at all. It's an odd dynamic, and it's irrational.

Here in my little town there was a fuss about paying more for the education of the kids. I don't have any kids, yet know that it's in my self-interest to help educate the town's children, as that lifts the entire community, myself included. I was more willing to pay more than some parents with kids. Go figure.

We benefit from our government in ways that are non-personal. I'm willing to pay for that. Government, of itself, is not evil or bad; indeed, we need government to manage our common interests and assets. We need good government, which means, universally, a democratically elected government which acts in the public interest.

Bad government also exists. That would be a tyrannical government which acts in the interests of those in power, and those they serve. These sorts of governments are more common than the good sort of government in the world. The USA is quickly becoming a nation with a bad, corrupt government, a non-democratic government, and a government which acts, not in the public interest, but in the interests of those who corrupt it, along with those in power inside the government.

It's ironic that those all in favor of bad government - our corrupt and corrupters - bemoan government as bad or evil; I'll meet this group half-way and say the government they want is bad and evil. The government I want is not.

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Reply#2 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:09 AM EST
ambivalent

Yes. I live in New York and pay huge school taxes, have no children in the system, not happy about it, but we have a wonderful school system. This is large part of the value of our locale and our home.

Our government - we could all contribute volumes to this subject couldn't we? Actually many of us do!

One of the lateral issues of this map that I noticed is that Native Americans have less of a factor in SS and Medicare benefits because of a shorter life expectancy. I am wondering about this and would like to know why this is so. I will find out what I can about this and get back in a while.

Thanks so much for your comment.

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